Align sign with numerator
I have an equation for which I would like the sign to be aligned with the numerator without being a part of it. As a rough example,
[ - frac{sqrt{3qtimes r^2}}{y times z} ]
produces

but I would prefer

Rationale: While, in the example above, the default layout is actually better, in my actual document the relevant fraction is coming after a new line and the minus sign is easy to miss. Moving it up to the level of the numerator would make it more conspicuous.
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I have an equation for which I would like the sign to be aligned with the numerator without being a part of it. As a rough example,
[ - frac{sqrt{3qtimes r^2}}{y times z} ]
produces

but I would prefer

Rationale: While, in the example above, the default layout is actually better, in my actual document the relevant fraction is coming after a new line and the minus sign is easy to miss. Moving it up to the level of the numerator would make it more conspicuous.
math-mode fractions
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frac{-sqrt{3qtimes r^2}}{y times z}is more mathematically true.
– JouleV
9 hours ago
@JouleV Absolutely! Unfortunately, my example above is meant to be indicative of my problem without containing too much unecessary clutter, and (while a good representation of the question I'm asking) is maybe not a good representation of my actual maths.
– owjburnham
9 hours ago
2
@JouleV more mathematically true? What does that mean?
– JPi
6 hours ago
@JPi I meant that it is true and the OP's is false. But as the OP wants to have the wrong one, I said "more mathematically true".
– JouleV
6 hours ago
@JouleV I agree with you in the example I gave. For what it’s worth, my imagined use case was (very roughly) a/b - x/y. In that case, I’d imagine that a/b -x/y (with the sign as part of the numerator) might risk looking like a/b times -x/y. I don’t know whether, in that case, you would agree?
– owjburnham
6 hours ago
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I have an equation for which I would like the sign to be aligned with the numerator without being a part of it. As a rough example,
[ - frac{sqrt{3qtimes r^2}}{y times z} ]
produces

but I would prefer

Rationale: While, in the example above, the default layout is actually better, in my actual document the relevant fraction is coming after a new line and the minus sign is easy to miss. Moving it up to the level of the numerator would make it more conspicuous.
math-mode fractions
I have an equation for which I would like the sign to be aligned with the numerator without being a part of it. As a rough example,
[ - frac{sqrt{3qtimes r^2}}{y times z} ]
produces

but I would prefer

Rationale: While, in the example above, the default layout is actually better, in my actual document the relevant fraction is coming after a new line and the minus sign is easy to miss. Moving it up to the level of the numerator would make it more conspicuous.
math-mode fractions
math-mode fractions
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frac{-sqrt{3qtimes r^2}}{y times z}is more mathematically true.
– JouleV
9 hours ago
@JouleV Absolutely! Unfortunately, my example above is meant to be indicative of my problem without containing too much unecessary clutter, and (while a good representation of the question I'm asking) is maybe not a good representation of my actual maths.
– owjburnham
9 hours ago
2
@JouleV more mathematically true? What does that mean?
– JPi
6 hours ago
@JPi I meant that it is true and the OP's is false. But as the OP wants to have the wrong one, I said "more mathematically true".
– JouleV
6 hours ago
@JouleV I agree with you in the example I gave. For what it’s worth, my imagined use case was (very roughly) a/b - x/y. In that case, I’d imagine that a/b -x/y (with the sign as part of the numerator) might risk looking like a/b times -x/y. I don’t know whether, in that case, you would agree?
– owjburnham
6 hours ago
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frac{-sqrt{3qtimes r^2}}{y times z}is more mathematically true.
– JouleV
9 hours ago
@JouleV Absolutely! Unfortunately, my example above is meant to be indicative of my problem without containing too much unecessary clutter, and (while a good representation of the question I'm asking) is maybe not a good representation of my actual maths.
– owjburnham
9 hours ago
2
@JouleV more mathematically true? What does that mean?
– JPi
6 hours ago
@JPi I meant that it is true and the OP's is false. But as the OP wants to have the wrong one, I said "more mathematically true".
– JouleV
6 hours ago
@JouleV I agree with you in the example I gave. For what it’s worth, my imagined use case was (very roughly) a/b - x/y. In that case, I’d imagine that a/b -x/y (with the sign as part of the numerator) might risk looking like a/b times -x/y. I don’t know whether, in that case, you would agree?
– owjburnham
6 hours ago
2
2
frac{-sqrt{3qtimes r^2}}{y times z} is more mathematically true.– JouleV
9 hours ago
frac{-sqrt{3qtimes r^2}}{y times z} is more mathematically true.– JouleV
9 hours ago
@JouleV Absolutely! Unfortunately, my example above is meant to be indicative of my problem without containing too much unecessary clutter, and (while a good representation of the question I'm asking) is maybe not a good representation of my actual maths.
– owjburnham
9 hours ago
@JouleV Absolutely! Unfortunately, my example above is meant to be indicative of my problem without containing too much unecessary clutter, and (while a good representation of the question I'm asking) is maybe not a good representation of my actual maths.
– owjburnham
9 hours ago
2
2
@JouleV more mathematically true? What does that mean?
– JPi
6 hours ago
@JouleV more mathematically true? What does that mean?
– JPi
6 hours ago
@JPi I meant that it is true and the OP's is false. But as the OP wants to have the wrong one, I said "more mathematically true".
– JouleV
6 hours ago
@JPi I meant that it is true and the OP's is false. But as the OP wants to have the wrong one, I said "more mathematically true".
– JouleV
6 hours ago
@JouleV I agree with you in the example I gave. For what it’s worth, my imagined use case was (very roughly) a/b - x/y. In that case, I’d imagine that a/b -x/y (with the sign as part of the numerator) might risk looking like a/b times -x/y. I don’t know whether, in that case, you would agree?
– owjburnham
6 hours ago
@JouleV I agree with you in the example I gave. For what it’s worth, my imagined use case was (very roughly) a/b - x/y. In that case, I’d imagine that a/b -x/y (with the sign as part of the numerator) might risk looking like a/b times -x/y. I don’t know whether, in that case, you would agree?
– owjburnham
6 hours ago
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I disagree with your rationale.
Anyway, the customer's always right. ;-)
Load mathtools and do
hphantom{-}frac{mathmakebox[0pt][r]{-}sqrt{3qtimes r^2}}{ytimes z}

There is a shorthand for mathmakebox[0pt][r]{...}, namely mathllap{...}.
2
thanks for help me to know about the tag mathmakebox...
– MadyYuvi
8 hours ago
Following JouleV's comment ( tex.stackexchange.com/questions/475470/… ), I also began to disagree with my own rationale (in the particular case in which I was asking the question). But I figured that the question was worth letting stand for future benefit ;-) Thanks for the solution.
– owjburnham
8 hours ago
1
simpler code:mathllap{-}instead ofmathmakebox
– daleif
5 hours ago
@barbarabeeton the only thing I'm replacing in egregs code ismathmakebox[0pt]{r}{-}the rest is the same including the hphantom.
– daleif
3 hours ago
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I disagree with your rationale.
Anyway, the customer's always right. ;-)
Load mathtools and do
hphantom{-}frac{mathmakebox[0pt][r]{-}sqrt{3qtimes r^2}}{ytimes z}

There is a shorthand for mathmakebox[0pt][r]{...}, namely mathllap{...}.
2
thanks for help me to know about the tag mathmakebox...
– MadyYuvi
8 hours ago
Following JouleV's comment ( tex.stackexchange.com/questions/475470/… ), I also began to disagree with my own rationale (in the particular case in which I was asking the question). But I figured that the question was worth letting stand for future benefit ;-) Thanks for the solution.
– owjburnham
8 hours ago
1
simpler code:mathllap{-}instead ofmathmakebox
– daleif
5 hours ago
@barbarabeeton the only thing I'm replacing in egregs code ismathmakebox[0pt]{r}{-}the rest is the same including the hphantom.
– daleif
3 hours ago
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I disagree with your rationale.
Anyway, the customer's always right. ;-)
Load mathtools and do
hphantom{-}frac{mathmakebox[0pt][r]{-}sqrt{3qtimes r^2}}{ytimes z}

There is a shorthand for mathmakebox[0pt][r]{...}, namely mathllap{...}.
2
thanks for help me to know about the tag mathmakebox...
– MadyYuvi
8 hours ago
Following JouleV's comment ( tex.stackexchange.com/questions/475470/… ), I also began to disagree with my own rationale (in the particular case in which I was asking the question). But I figured that the question was worth letting stand for future benefit ;-) Thanks for the solution.
– owjburnham
8 hours ago
1
simpler code:mathllap{-}instead ofmathmakebox
– daleif
5 hours ago
@barbarabeeton the only thing I'm replacing in egregs code ismathmakebox[0pt]{r}{-}the rest is the same including the hphantom.
– daleif
3 hours ago
add a comment |
I disagree with your rationale.
Anyway, the customer's always right. ;-)
Load mathtools and do
hphantom{-}frac{mathmakebox[0pt][r]{-}sqrt{3qtimes r^2}}{ytimes z}

There is a shorthand for mathmakebox[0pt][r]{...}, namely mathllap{...}.
I disagree with your rationale.
Anyway, the customer's always right. ;-)
Load mathtools and do
hphantom{-}frac{mathmakebox[0pt][r]{-}sqrt{3qtimes r^2}}{ytimes z}

There is a shorthand for mathmakebox[0pt][r]{...}, namely mathllap{...}.
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thanks for help me to know about the tag mathmakebox...
– MadyYuvi
8 hours ago
Following JouleV's comment ( tex.stackexchange.com/questions/475470/… ), I also began to disagree with my own rationale (in the particular case in which I was asking the question). But I figured that the question was worth letting stand for future benefit ;-) Thanks for the solution.
– owjburnham
8 hours ago
1
simpler code:mathllap{-}instead ofmathmakebox
– daleif
5 hours ago
@barbarabeeton the only thing I'm replacing in egregs code ismathmakebox[0pt]{r}{-}the rest is the same including the hphantom.
– daleif
3 hours ago
add a comment |
2
thanks for help me to know about the tag mathmakebox...
– MadyYuvi
8 hours ago
Following JouleV's comment ( tex.stackexchange.com/questions/475470/… ), I also began to disagree with my own rationale (in the particular case in which I was asking the question). But I figured that the question was worth letting stand for future benefit ;-) Thanks for the solution.
– owjburnham
8 hours ago
1
simpler code:mathllap{-}instead ofmathmakebox
– daleif
5 hours ago
@barbarabeeton the only thing I'm replacing in egregs code ismathmakebox[0pt]{r}{-}the rest is the same including the hphantom.
– daleif
3 hours ago
2
2
thanks for help me to know about the tag mathmakebox...
– MadyYuvi
8 hours ago
thanks for help me to know about the tag mathmakebox...
– MadyYuvi
8 hours ago
Following JouleV's comment ( tex.stackexchange.com/questions/475470/… ), I also began to disagree with my own rationale (in the particular case in which I was asking the question). But I figured that the question was worth letting stand for future benefit ;-) Thanks for the solution.
– owjburnham
8 hours ago
Following JouleV's comment ( tex.stackexchange.com/questions/475470/… ), I also began to disagree with my own rationale (in the particular case in which I was asking the question). But I figured that the question was worth letting stand for future benefit ;-) Thanks for the solution.
– owjburnham
8 hours ago
1
1
simpler code:
mathllap{-} instead of mathmakebox– daleif
5 hours ago
simpler code:
mathllap{-} instead of mathmakebox– daleif
5 hours ago
@barbarabeeton the only thing I'm replacing in egregs code is
mathmakebox[0pt]{r}{-} the rest is the same including the hphantom.– daleif
3 hours ago
@barbarabeeton the only thing I'm replacing in egregs code is
mathmakebox[0pt]{r}{-} the rest is the same including the hphantom.– daleif
3 hours ago
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frac{-sqrt{3qtimes r^2}}{y times z}is more mathematically true.– JouleV
9 hours ago
@JouleV Absolutely! Unfortunately, my example above is meant to be indicative of my problem without containing too much unecessary clutter, and (while a good representation of the question I'm asking) is maybe not a good representation of my actual maths.
– owjburnham
9 hours ago
2
@JouleV more mathematically true? What does that mean?
– JPi
6 hours ago
@JPi I meant that it is true and the OP's is false. But as the OP wants to have the wrong one, I said "more mathematically true".
– JouleV
6 hours ago
@JouleV I agree with you in the example I gave. For what it’s worth, my imagined use case was (very roughly) a/b - x/y. In that case, I’d imagine that a/b -x/y (with the sign as part of the numerator) might risk looking like a/b times -x/y. I don’t know whether, in that case, you would agree?
– owjburnham
6 hours ago