Does an increasing sequence of reals converge if the difference of consecutive terms approaches zero?
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If $a_n$ is a sequence such that $$a_1 leq a_2 leq a_3 leq ...$$
and has the property that $space$$a_{n+1}-a_n longrightarrow 0$,
Then can we conclude that $a_n$ is convergent?
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I know that without condition that the sequence is increasing, this is not true, as we could consider the sequence given in this answer to a similar question that does not require the sequence to be increasing: $space$ https://math.stackexchange.com/a/1437395/625467
$0, 1, frac12, 0, frac13, frac23, 1, frac34, frac12, frac14, 0, frac15, frac25, frac35, frac45, 1...$
This oscillates between 0 and 1, while the difference of consecutive terms approaches 0 since the difference is always of the form $pmfrac1m$ and m increases the further we go in this sequence.
So how can we use the condition that $a_n$ is increasing to show that $a_n$ must converge? Or is this still not sufficient?
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If $a_n$ is a sequence such that $$a_1 leq a_2 leq a_3 leq ...$$
and has the property that $space$$a_{n+1}-a_n longrightarrow 0$,
Then can we conclude that $a_n$ is convergent?
$$space$$
I know that without condition that the sequence is increasing, this is not true, as we could consider the sequence given in this answer to a similar question that does not require the sequence to be increasing: $space$ https://math.stackexchange.com/a/1437395/625467
$0, 1, frac12, 0, frac13, frac23, 1, frac34, frac12, frac14, 0, frac15, frac25, frac35, frac45, 1...$
This oscillates between 0 and 1, while the difference of consecutive terms approaches 0 since the difference is always of the form $pmfrac1m$ and m increases the further we go in this sequence.
So how can we use the condition that $a_n$ is increasing to show that $a_n$ must converge? Or is this still not sufficient?
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Note that while your sequence goes up and down periodically, you could define another sequence with the same step length for each $n$ but with all steps positive. That would be a counterexample to your question.
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If $a_n$ is a sequence such that $$a_1 leq a_2 leq a_3 leq ...$$
and has the property that $space$$a_{n+1}-a_n longrightarrow 0$,
Then can we conclude that $a_n$ is convergent?
$$space$$
I know that without condition that the sequence is increasing, this is not true, as we could consider the sequence given in this answer to a similar question that does not require the sequence to be increasing: $space$ https://math.stackexchange.com/a/1437395/625467
$0, 1, frac12, 0, frac13, frac23, 1, frac34, frac12, frac14, 0, frac15, frac25, frac35, frac45, 1...$
This oscillates between 0 and 1, while the difference of consecutive terms approaches 0 since the difference is always of the form $pmfrac1m$ and m increases the further we go in this sequence.
So how can we use the condition that $a_n$ is increasing to show that $a_n$ must converge? Or is this still not sufficient?
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If $a_n$ is a sequence such that $$a_1 leq a_2 leq a_3 leq ...$$
and has the property that $space$$a_{n+1}-a_n longrightarrow 0$,
Then can we conclude that $a_n$ is convergent?
$$space$$
I know that without condition that the sequence is increasing, this is not true, as we could consider the sequence given in this answer to a similar question that does not require the sequence to be increasing: $space$ https://math.stackexchange.com/a/1437395/625467
$0, 1, frac12, 0, frac13, frac23, 1, frac34, frac12, frac14, 0, frac15, frac25, frac35, frac45, 1...$
This oscillates between 0 and 1, while the difference of consecutive terms approaches 0 since the difference is always of the form $pmfrac1m$ and m increases the further we go in this sequence.
So how can we use the condition that $a_n$ is increasing to show that $a_n$ must converge? Or is this still not sufficient?
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Note that while your sequence goes up and down periodically, you could define another sequence with the same step length for each $n$ but with all steps positive. That would be a counterexample to your question.
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Note that while your sequence goes up and down periodically, you could define another sequence with the same step length for each $n$ but with all steps positive. That would be a counterexample to your question.
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Note that while your sequence goes up and down periodically, you could define another sequence with the same step length for each $n$ but with all steps positive. That would be a counterexample to your question.
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– Adayah
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Note that while your sequence goes up and down periodically, you could define another sequence with the same step length for each $n$ but with all steps positive. That would be a counterexample to your question.
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No. Just consider the case in which $a_n=1+frac12+frac13+cdots+frac1n$.
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Ummm, why is this relevant? Not only are we talking about sequences, not series, but also your series has decreasing terms, which the OP states shouldn't be the case...
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Rhys: His sequence is $1, frac32, frac{11}6, frac{25}{12},...$. Essentially the sequence of partial sums associated with the harmonic series. This is still a sequence, not a series, since it is a finite sum.
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@RhysHughes $a_n=1+frac12+cdots+frac1n$ IS increasing and $a_{n+1}-a_n=frac{1}{n+1}to 0$.
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An increasing sequence ${a_n}_{ngeq 1}$ has limit in $mathbb{R}cup{+infty}$. It is $sup_{ngeq 1} a_n$. Such $sup$ or supremum can be a finite number or $+infty$ even if we know that $a_{n+1}-a_nto 0$.
An example with a finite limit is $a_n=1-1/nto 1$ and $a_{n+1}-a_n=frac{1}{n(n+1)}to 0$.
On the other hand $a_n=sqrt{n}to +infty$ and $a_{n+1}-a_n=sqrt{n+1}-sqrt{n}=frac{1}{sqrt{n+1}+sqrt{n}}to 0$.
So, the answer is NO, the condition $a_{n+1}-a_nto 0$ is not sufficient for an increasing sequence ${a_n}_{ngeq 1}$ to have a FINITE limit.
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Robert.A fine answer!+
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– Peter Szilas
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The condition $a_{n+1}-a_n to 0$ is not sufficient, as José Carlos Santos pointed out. But, a necessary and sufficient condition, that doesn't require the series to be increasing, is that $limlimits_{ntoinfty}(a_{n+m(n)}-a_n)=0$ for all $m(n)in mathbb{N}$, where $m$ is a function of $n$. Sequences which satisfy this property are called Cauchy sequences.
Also, if you show that a sequence is monotonically increasing and bounded from above, then it converges. The same applies for monotonically decreasing sequences which are bounded from below.
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Your stated condition $lim_{n to infty} (a_{n+m}-a_n) = 0$ for each $m$ is not equivalent to the Cauchy property, and it does not imply that the sequence $a_n$ converges. Consider $a_n = log n$. I think what you would want is that $lim_{n to infty} (a_{n+m}-a_n) = 0$ uniformly in $m$.
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– Nate Eldredge
1 hour ago
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@NateEldredge But if we take $m=n$, then the condition is not satisfied, is it?
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– Haris Gusic
1 hour ago
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Okay, the revised condition (where $m$ is a function of $n$) is correct, though it seems awkward to work with in practice.
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– Nate Eldredge
1 hour ago
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@NateEldredge I formulated it that way because I am more familiar with it. Sorry about any confusion I might have caused.
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No. Just consider the case in which $a_n=1+frac12+frac13+cdots+frac1n$.
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Ummm, why is this relevant? Not only are we talking about sequences, not series, but also your series has decreasing terms, which the OP states shouldn't be the case...
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– Rhys Hughes
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Rhys: His sequence is $1, frac32, frac{11}6, frac{25}{12},...$. Essentially the sequence of partial sums associated with the harmonic series. This is still a sequence, not a series, since it is a finite sum.
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@RhysHughes $a_n=1+frac12+cdots+frac1n$ IS increasing and $a_{n+1}-a_n=frac{1}{n+1}to 0$.
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No. Just consider the case in which $a_n=1+frac12+frac13+cdots+frac1n$.
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Ummm, why is this relevant? Not only are we talking about sequences, not series, but also your series has decreasing terms, which the OP states shouldn't be the case...
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– Rhys Hughes
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Rhys: His sequence is $1, frac32, frac{11}6, frac{25}{12},...$. Essentially the sequence of partial sums associated with the harmonic series. This is still a sequence, not a series, since it is a finite sum.
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@RhysHughes $a_n=1+frac12+cdots+frac1n$ IS increasing and $a_{n+1}-a_n=frac{1}{n+1}to 0$.
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No. Just consider the case in which $a_n=1+frac12+frac13+cdots+frac1n$.
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No. Just consider the case in which $a_n=1+frac12+frac13+cdots+frac1n$.
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Ummm, why is this relevant? Not only are we talking about sequences, not series, but also your series has decreasing terms, which the OP states shouldn't be the case...
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– Rhys Hughes
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Rhys: His sequence is $1, frac32, frac{11}6, frac{25}{12},...$. Essentially the sequence of partial sums associated with the harmonic series. This is still a sequence, not a series, since it is a finite sum.
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– M D
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@RhysHughes $a_n=1+frac12+cdots+frac1n$ IS increasing and $a_{n+1}-a_n=frac{1}{n+1}to 0$.
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– Robert Z
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Ummm, why is this relevant? Not only are we talking about sequences, not series, but also your series has decreasing terms, which the OP states shouldn't be the case...
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– Rhys Hughes
2 hours ago
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Rhys: His sequence is $1, frac32, frac{11}6, frac{25}{12},...$. Essentially the sequence of partial sums associated with the harmonic series. This is still a sequence, not a series, since it is a finite sum.
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– M D
2 hours ago
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@RhysHughes $a_n=1+frac12+cdots+frac1n$ IS increasing and $a_{n+1}-a_n=frac{1}{n+1}to 0$.
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– Robert Z
2 hours ago
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Ummm, why is this relevant? Not only are we talking about sequences, not series, but also your series has decreasing terms, which the OP states shouldn't be the case...
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– Rhys Hughes
2 hours ago
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Ummm, why is this relevant? Not only are we talking about sequences, not series, but also your series has decreasing terms, which the OP states shouldn't be the case...
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– Rhys Hughes
2 hours ago
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Rhys: His sequence is $1, frac32, frac{11}6, frac{25}{12},...$. Essentially the sequence of partial sums associated with the harmonic series. This is still a sequence, not a series, since it is a finite sum.
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– M D
2 hours ago
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Rhys: His sequence is $1, frac32, frac{11}6, frac{25}{12},...$. Essentially the sequence of partial sums associated with the harmonic series. This is still a sequence, not a series, since it is a finite sum.
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– M D
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@RhysHughes $a_n=1+frac12+cdots+frac1n$ IS increasing and $a_{n+1}-a_n=frac{1}{n+1}to 0$.
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– Robert Z
2 hours ago
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@RhysHughes $a_n=1+frac12+cdots+frac1n$ IS increasing and $a_{n+1}-a_n=frac{1}{n+1}to 0$.
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– Robert Z
2 hours ago
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An increasing sequence ${a_n}_{ngeq 1}$ has limit in $mathbb{R}cup{+infty}$. It is $sup_{ngeq 1} a_n$. Such $sup$ or supremum can be a finite number or $+infty$ even if we know that $a_{n+1}-a_nto 0$.
An example with a finite limit is $a_n=1-1/nto 1$ and $a_{n+1}-a_n=frac{1}{n(n+1)}to 0$.
On the other hand $a_n=sqrt{n}to +infty$ and $a_{n+1}-a_n=sqrt{n+1}-sqrt{n}=frac{1}{sqrt{n+1}+sqrt{n}}to 0$.
So, the answer is NO, the condition $a_{n+1}-a_nto 0$ is not sufficient for an increasing sequence ${a_n}_{ngeq 1}$ to have a FINITE limit.
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Robert.A fine answer!+
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– Peter Szilas
2 hours ago
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An increasing sequence ${a_n}_{ngeq 1}$ has limit in $mathbb{R}cup{+infty}$. It is $sup_{ngeq 1} a_n$. Such $sup$ or supremum can be a finite number or $+infty$ even if we know that $a_{n+1}-a_nto 0$.
An example with a finite limit is $a_n=1-1/nto 1$ and $a_{n+1}-a_n=frac{1}{n(n+1)}to 0$.
On the other hand $a_n=sqrt{n}to +infty$ and $a_{n+1}-a_n=sqrt{n+1}-sqrt{n}=frac{1}{sqrt{n+1}+sqrt{n}}to 0$.
So, the answer is NO, the condition $a_{n+1}-a_nto 0$ is not sufficient for an increasing sequence ${a_n}_{ngeq 1}$ to have a FINITE limit.
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Robert.A fine answer!+
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– Peter Szilas
2 hours ago
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An increasing sequence ${a_n}_{ngeq 1}$ has limit in $mathbb{R}cup{+infty}$. It is $sup_{ngeq 1} a_n$. Such $sup$ or supremum can be a finite number or $+infty$ even if we know that $a_{n+1}-a_nto 0$.
An example with a finite limit is $a_n=1-1/nto 1$ and $a_{n+1}-a_n=frac{1}{n(n+1)}to 0$.
On the other hand $a_n=sqrt{n}to +infty$ and $a_{n+1}-a_n=sqrt{n+1}-sqrt{n}=frac{1}{sqrt{n+1}+sqrt{n}}to 0$.
So, the answer is NO, the condition $a_{n+1}-a_nto 0$ is not sufficient for an increasing sequence ${a_n}_{ngeq 1}$ to have a FINITE limit.
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An increasing sequence ${a_n}_{ngeq 1}$ has limit in $mathbb{R}cup{+infty}$. It is $sup_{ngeq 1} a_n$. Such $sup$ or supremum can be a finite number or $+infty$ even if we know that $a_{n+1}-a_nto 0$.
An example with a finite limit is $a_n=1-1/nto 1$ and $a_{n+1}-a_n=frac{1}{n(n+1)}to 0$.
On the other hand $a_n=sqrt{n}to +infty$ and $a_{n+1}-a_n=sqrt{n+1}-sqrt{n}=frac{1}{sqrt{n+1}+sqrt{n}}to 0$.
So, the answer is NO, the condition $a_{n+1}-a_nto 0$ is not sufficient for an increasing sequence ${a_n}_{ngeq 1}$ to have a FINITE limit.
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Robert.A fine answer!+
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Robert.A fine answer!+
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– Peter Szilas
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Robert.A fine answer!+
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– Peter Szilas
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Robert.A fine answer!+
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The condition $a_{n+1}-a_n to 0$ is not sufficient, as José Carlos Santos pointed out. But, a necessary and sufficient condition, that doesn't require the series to be increasing, is that $limlimits_{ntoinfty}(a_{n+m(n)}-a_n)=0$ for all $m(n)in mathbb{N}$, where $m$ is a function of $n$. Sequences which satisfy this property are called Cauchy sequences.
Also, if you show that a sequence is monotonically increasing and bounded from above, then it converges. The same applies for monotonically decreasing sequences which are bounded from below.
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Your stated condition $lim_{n to infty} (a_{n+m}-a_n) = 0$ for each $m$ is not equivalent to the Cauchy property, and it does not imply that the sequence $a_n$ converges. Consider $a_n = log n$. I think what you would want is that $lim_{n to infty} (a_{n+m}-a_n) = 0$ uniformly in $m$.
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– Nate Eldredge
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@NateEldredge But if we take $m=n$, then the condition is not satisfied, is it?
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– Haris Gusic
1 hour ago
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Okay, the revised condition (where $m$ is a function of $n$) is correct, though it seems awkward to work with in practice.
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– Nate Eldredge
1 hour ago
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@NateEldredge I formulated it that way because I am more familiar with it. Sorry about any confusion I might have caused.
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– Haris Gusic
1 hour ago
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The condition $a_{n+1}-a_n to 0$ is not sufficient, as José Carlos Santos pointed out. But, a necessary and sufficient condition, that doesn't require the series to be increasing, is that $limlimits_{ntoinfty}(a_{n+m(n)}-a_n)=0$ for all $m(n)in mathbb{N}$, where $m$ is a function of $n$. Sequences which satisfy this property are called Cauchy sequences.
Also, if you show that a sequence is monotonically increasing and bounded from above, then it converges. The same applies for monotonically decreasing sequences which are bounded from below.
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Your stated condition $lim_{n to infty} (a_{n+m}-a_n) = 0$ for each $m$ is not equivalent to the Cauchy property, and it does not imply that the sequence $a_n$ converges. Consider $a_n = log n$. I think what you would want is that $lim_{n to infty} (a_{n+m}-a_n) = 0$ uniformly in $m$.
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– Nate Eldredge
1 hour ago
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@NateEldredge But if we take $m=n$, then the condition is not satisfied, is it?
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– Haris Gusic
1 hour ago
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Okay, the revised condition (where $m$ is a function of $n$) is correct, though it seems awkward to work with in practice.
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– Nate Eldredge
1 hour ago
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@NateEldredge I formulated it that way because I am more familiar with it. Sorry about any confusion I might have caused.
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– Haris Gusic
1 hour ago
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The condition $a_{n+1}-a_n to 0$ is not sufficient, as José Carlos Santos pointed out. But, a necessary and sufficient condition, that doesn't require the series to be increasing, is that $limlimits_{ntoinfty}(a_{n+m(n)}-a_n)=0$ for all $m(n)in mathbb{N}$, where $m$ is a function of $n$. Sequences which satisfy this property are called Cauchy sequences.
Also, if you show that a sequence is monotonically increasing and bounded from above, then it converges. The same applies for monotonically decreasing sequences which are bounded from below.
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The condition $a_{n+1}-a_n to 0$ is not sufficient, as José Carlos Santos pointed out. But, a necessary and sufficient condition, that doesn't require the series to be increasing, is that $limlimits_{ntoinfty}(a_{n+m(n)}-a_n)=0$ for all $m(n)in mathbb{N}$, where $m$ is a function of $n$. Sequences which satisfy this property are called Cauchy sequences.
Also, if you show that a sequence is monotonically increasing and bounded from above, then it converges. The same applies for monotonically decreasing sequences which are bounded from below.
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Your stated condition $lim_{n to infty} (a_{n+m}-a_n) = 0$ for each $m$ is not equivalent to the Cauchy property, and it does not imply that the sequence $a_n$ converges. Consider $a_n = log n$. I think what you would want is that $lim_{n to infty} (a_{n+m}-a_n) = 0$ uniformly in $m$.
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– Nate Eldredge
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@NateEldredge But if we take $m=n$, then the condition is not satisfied, is it?
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– Haris Gusic
1 hour ago
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Okay, the revised condition (where $m$ is a function of $n$) is correct, though it seems awkward to work with in practice.
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– Nate Eldredge
1 hour ago
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@NateEldredge I formulated it that way because I am more familiar with it. Sorry about any confusion I might have caused.
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– Haris Gusic
1 hour ago
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Your stated condition $lim_{n to infty} (a_{n+m}-a_n) = 0$ for each $m$ is not equivalent to the Cauchy property, and it does not imply that the sequence $a_n$ converges. Consider $a_n = log n$. I think what you would want is that $lim_{n to infty} (a_{n+m}-a_n) = 0$ uniformly in $m$.
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– Nate Eldredge
1 hour ago
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@NateEldredge But if we take $m=n$, then the condition is not satisfied, is it?
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– Haris Gusic
1 hour ago
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Okay, the revised condition (where $m$ is a function of $n$) is correct, though it seems awkward to work with in practice.
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– Nate Eldredge
1 hour ago
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@NateEldredge I formulated it that way because I am more familiar with it. Sorry about any confusion I might have caused.
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– Haris Gusic
1 hour ago
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Your stated condition $lim_{n to infty} (a_{n+m}-a_n) = 0$ for each $m$ is not equivalent to the Cauchy property, and it does not imply that the sequence $a_n$ converges. Consider $a_n = log n$. I think what you would want is that $lim_{n to infty} (a_{n+m}-a_n) = 0$ uniformly in $m$.
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– Nate Eldredge
1 hour ago
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Your stated condition $lim_{n to infty} (a_{n+m}-a_n) = 0$ for each $m$ is not equivalent to the Cauchy property, and it does not imply that the sequence $a_n$ converges. Consider $a_n = log n$. I think what you would want is that $lim_{n to infty} (a_{n+m}-a_n) = 0$ uniformly in $m$.
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– Nate Eldredge
1 hour ago
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@NateEldredge But if we take $m=n$, then the condition is not satisfied, is it?
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– Haris Gusic
1 hour ago
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@NateEldredge But if we take $m=n$, then the condition is not satisfied, is it?
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– Haris Gusic
1 hour ago
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Okay, the revised condition (where $m$ is a function of $n$) is correct, though it seems awkward to work with in practice.
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– Nate Eldredge
1 hour ago
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Okay, the revised condition (where $m$ is a function of $n$) is correct, though it seems awkward to work with in practice.
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– Nate Eldredge
1 hour ago
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@NateEldredge I formulated it that way because I am more familiar with it. Sorry about any confusion I might have caused.
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– Haris Gusic
1 hour ago
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@NateEldredge I formulated it that way because I am more familiar with it. Sorry about any confusion I might have caused.
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– Haris Gusic
1 hour ago
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Note that while your sequence goes up and down periodically, you could define another sequence with the same step length for each $n$ but with all steps positive. That would be a counterexample to your question.
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