Is it possible / allowed to upcast ritual spells?
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For example, say I'm a level 11 bard that has the spells Leomunds Tiny Hut(LTH) or Alarm. LTH is a 3rd level spell with the ritual tag, Alarm is a 1st level spell with the ritual tag. Since they are rituals they can be cast without expending a spell slot. The question is, is it possible to cast LTH or Alarm at say 6th level, (which Bard's at 11th level have 1 6th level spell slot) as a ritual, thus making it harder to dispel the enchantment.
The reason I ask this is because spells like LTH and Alarm are pretty good for setting up camp, but they can be dispelled by an attacking party with a simple Dispel Magic, and since they are a 3rd level spell or lower the spell effect is ended immediately without the enemy even needing a roll.
In my mind, if a spellcaster has the ability to cast spells at 6th level, they should be able to embue a ritual spell they cast with that level of power, as a ritual.
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For example, say I'm a level 11 bard that has the spells Leomunds Tiny Hut(LTH) or Alarm. LTH is a 3rd level spell with the ritual tag, Alarm is a 1st level spell with the ritual tag. Since they are rituals they can be cast without expending a spell slot. The question is, is it possible to cast LTH or Alarm at say 6th level, (which Bard's at 11th level have 1 6th level spell slot) as a ritual, thus making it harder to dispel the enchantment.
The reason I ask this is because spells like LTH and Alarm are pretty good for setting up camp, but they can be dispelled by an attacking party with a simple Dispel Magic, and since they are a 3rd level spell or lower the spell effect is ended immediately without the enemy even needing a roll.
In my mind, if a spellcaster has the ability to cast spells at 6th level, they should be able to embue a ritual spell they cast with that level of power, as a ritual.
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For example, say I'm a level 11 bard that has the spells Leomunds Tiny Hut(LTH) or Alarm. LTH is a 3rd level spell with the ritual tag, Alarm is a 1st level spell with the ritual tag. Since they are rituals they can be cast without expending a spell slot. The question is, is it possible to cast LTH or Alarm at say 6th level, (which Bard's at 11th level have 1 6th level spell slot) as a ritual, thus making it harder to dispel the enchantment.
The reason I ask this is because spells like LTH and Alarm are pretty good for setting up camp, but they can be dispelled by an attacking party with a simple Dispel Magic, and since they are a 3rd level spell or lower the spell effect is ended immediately without the enemy even needing a roll.
In my mind, if a spellcaster has the ability to cast spells at 6th level, they should be able to embue a ritual spell they cast with that level of power, as a ritual.
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For example, say I'm a level 11 bard that has the spells Leomunds Tiny Hut(LTH) or Alarm. LTH is a 3rd level spell with the ritual tag, Alarm is a 1st level spell with the ritual tag. Since they are rituals they can be cast without expending a spell slot. The question is, is it possible to cast LTH or Alarm at say 6th level, (which Bard's at 11th level have 1 6th level spell slot) as a ritual, thus making it harder to dispel the enchantment.
The reason I ask this is because spells like LTH and Alarm are pretty good for setting up camp, but they can be dispelled by an attacking party with a simple Dispel Magic, and since they are a 3rd level spell or lower the spell effect is ended immediately without the enemy even needing a roll.
In my mind, if a spellcaster has the ability to cast spells at 6th level, they should be able to embue a ritual spell they cast with that level of power, as a ritual.
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Ritual spells can't be cast at higher levels unless you spend a spell slot
The rules for rituals state that:
The ritual version of a spell takes 10 minutes longer to cast than normal. It also doesn't expend a spell slot, which means the ritual version of a spell can't be cast at a higher level
This means that when casting as a ritual the spell must be cast at its normal level. However do note that these spells can also be cast normally (emphasis mine):
Such a spell can be cast following the normal rules for spellcasting, or the spell can be cast as a ritual
So if you really want to have a higher level tiny hut, for example, you can spend a higher lvl slot to cast it normally.
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No
From the Ritual rules:
It also doesn't expend a spell slot, which means the ritual version of a spell can't be cast at a higher level.
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Ritual spells can't be cast at higher levels unless you spend a spell slot
The rules for rituals state that:
The ritual version of a spell takes 10 minutes longer to cast than normal. It also doesn't expend a spell slot, which means the ritual version of a spell can't be cast at a higher level
This means that when casting as a ritual the spell must be cast at its normal level. However do note that these spells can also be cast normally (emphasis mine):
Such a spell can be cast following the normal rules for spellcasting, or the spell can be cast as a ritual
So if you really want to have a higher level tiny hut, for example, you can spend a higher lvl slot to cast it normally.
answered 1 hour ago
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Ritual spells can't be cast at higher levels unless you spend a spell slot
The rules for rituals state that:
The ritual version of a spell takes 10 minutes longer to cast than normal. It also doesn't expend a spell slot, which means the ritual version of a spell can't be cast at a higher level
This means that when casting as a ritual the spell must be cast at its normal level. However do note that these spells can also be cast normally (emphasis mine):
Such a spell can be cast following the normal rules for spellcasting, or the spell can be cast as a ritual
So if you really want to have a higher level tiny hut, for example, you can spend a higher lvl slot to cast it normally.
answered 1 hour ago
SdjzSdjz
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Ritual spells can't be cast at higher levels unless you spend a spell slot
The rules for rituals state that:
The ritual version of a spell takes 10 minutes longer to cast than normal. It also doesn't expend a spell slot, which means the ritual version of a spell can't be cast at a higher level
This means that when casting as a ritual the spell must be cast at its normal level. However do note that these spells can also be cast normally (emphasis mine):
Such a spell can be cast following the normal rules for spellcasting, or the spell can be cast as a ritual
So if you really want to have a higher level tiny hut, for example, you can spend a higher lvl slot to cast it normally.
answered 1 hour ago
SdjzSdjz
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Ritual spells can't be cast at higher levels unless you spend a spell slot
The rules for rituals state that:
The ritual version of a spell takes 10 minutes longer to cast than normal. It also doesn't expend a spell slot, which means the ritual version of a spell can't be cast at a higher level
This means that when casting as a ritual the spell must be cast at its normal level. However do note that these spells can also be cast normally (emphasis mine):
Such a spell can be cast following the normal rules for spellcasting, or the spell can be cast as a ritual
So if you really want to have a higher level tiny hut, for example, you can spend a higher lvl slot to cast it normally.
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No
From the Ritual rules:
It also doesn't expend a spell slot, which means the ritual version of a spell can't be cast at a higher level.
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From the Ritual rules:
It also doesn't expend a spell slot, which means the ritual version of a spell can't be cast at a higher level.
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No
From the Ritual rules:
It also doesn't expend a spell slot, which means the ritual version of a spell can't be cast at a higher level.
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No
From the Ritual rules:
It also doesn't expend a spell slot, which means the ritual version of a spell can't be cast at a higher level.
answered 1 hour ago
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